Thursday, December 21, 2006

"This is not a racist issue"

Following on from yesterday's reports of 'grooming' (isn't that what primates do ?) in Oldham, there are also reports from Burnley and Rossendale.

The Evening Telegraph can exclusively reveal girls as young as 12 have been targeted by gangs of men who pay the youngsters in cash, drugs, cigarettes and drink for sexual favours.

Police revealed in the past year, around 50 East Lancashire victims aged under 16 had been identified by special police and social services teams set up to combat the menace but they believe as many as 100 could be involved.

Many of the youngsters go missing from home each week to spend time with men who have groomed them for sex.

Officers said the predators, who initially approach the girls on the street, are predominantly Asian and community leaders have joined the fight to tackle the issue.

In an attempt to stamp out the abuse and help girls who are lured away from home, police in Blackburn, Darwen, Hyndburn and Ribble Valley launched a crackdown called Operation Engage last June but have now made it a permanent policing priority after discovering the extent of the problem.

At the same time police in Burnley, Pendle and Rossendale (Pennine division) ran Operation Fruition to identify the scale of the problem of girls being groomed into sexual exploitation by isolated groups of men.

Muslim leaders have also been holding special seminars at mosques across East Lancashire to raise awareness of the problem.

PC Helen Dean from the Engage team revealed that in the past 12 months, along with Alison Hartley, from Blackburn with Darwen Council's children's services, she has worked with 31 children who have been groomed into this abuse.

PC Emma Shaw, who is dedicated to dealing with all missing from home cases in the Pennine division, has worked with between 15 and 20 girls who had been groomed into sexual exploitation by gangs of men.

But they are only the girls that they had been able to connect with and they believe many more are being victimised.

Since June 2005 police have issued 65 warning letters to men in the Blackburn, Darwen, Hyndburn and Ribble Valley area who have been identified through intelligence for harbouring children away from the care of their home or social services.


So far so bog-standard. You have to pull a wry face at the police response though.

Police stressed, however, that the issue of grooming also involved men, predominantly white, who target girls through the internet.

Blackburn MP Jack Straw today expressed his deep concern and said he would be raising the matter immediately with the Home Office.

He said: "I was frankly unaware of the scale of this problem until the Lancashire Evening Telegraph highlighted it but it is one that we all must now address including the Asian community."

Supt Neil Smith of Lancashire Police said: "This is not a racist issue. It is about the exploitation of vulnerable young girls for sex.

"The majority of cases involve Asian males but there are also a significant proportion of cases involving white men using the internet."


I think that 'predominantly' has been added by reporter Caroline Innes. The police phrase is 'significant proportion'. But the analogy doesn't add up anyway. It's not Asian girls who are being tempted into cars with offers of drink, is it ? Does anyone think white men on the internet are targeting Asian girls ?

And when was the last time a police report on misbehaviour by white people included a rider to the effect that there was plenty of crime committed by minorities ?

22 comments:

Alex Zeka said...
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Anonymous said...

A couple of years ago I had an interesting conversation with a female journalist who had done a story in France about the craze for tournante or gang rape or at least, gang sex-coercion. She insisted - because she had to - that it was not a crime associated with any particular group (or 'immigrant' community) and despite the evidence, chose to identify it as purely a 'male' thing. And that's how the myth peddling works, by diluting the blame so that eventually 'everyone is guilty', which is of course the moral relativist's end-game.

AntiCitizenOne said...

> Does anyone think white men on the internet are targeting Asian girls ?

I'm up for a bit of mutual "targetting"!

Anonymous said...

"the issue of grooming also involved men, predominantly white,"

Conflicts with,

"The majority of cases involve Asian males..."

Anonymous said...

Lots more on the same story

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-36,GGLG:en&q=asian+grooming+site:www%2elancashireeveningtelegraph%2eco%2euk

Voyager said...

I heard this Report on the BBC and the geography seemed to suggest just that which the BBC omitted to mention...........I suppose Keighley tends to give you a slightly jaundiced view of babus looking to integrate and inseminate with young white girls

MarkS said...

If some men are grooming girls via the internet, how do they know what colour they are? Webcams, I suppose.

Anonymous said...

mark said 5:06 PM
" If some men are grooming girls via the internet, how do they know what colour they are? Webcams, I suppose."

More to the point, how do they know they're in Lancashire? Or men?

Anonymous said...

To zeka: shame on you for aiming below the belt.

This news totally supports the BNP's cause. That is not good...

JuliaM said...

"This news totally supports the BNP's cause."

Can't be bothered to Google it (it's too early in the morning!) but didn't the BNP (or some other party?) campaign on the 'asians are grooming your girls for sex!' issue somewhere up North....?

I seem to recall a Channel 4 thing too, or am I recollecting wrong? Of course, I'm sure I'm not imagining the howls from the Guardianistas about how misleading it was, etc.

Wonder what they will have to say now?

Voyager said...

BNP (or some other party?) campaign on the 'asians are grooming your girls for sex!' issue somewhere up North....?

It was factual - it was Keighley - it was West Yorkshire Police being PC and doing Zero as they have on the questions of physical abuse of children in mosques and madrassahs


BBC Radio had a recent programme with Saint Fergal Keane interviewing a mother whose daughter had turned to prostitution after personal tuition in Keighley - but in reading her BBC script she declared her undying devotion to multiculturalism and her plucky fight against the BNP

Anonymous said...

Jingoistic - I trust you are being ironic young man. Or maybe not.

alex zeka said...

Jingoistic (can I call you jingo for short?),

A piece of news supports the assertions made by a political party you disagree with. However, rather than using this as an opportunity to reconsider your opposition to this party, you instead rage at the facts: how dare they be what they are, they must be secretly racist! ;->

You resemble nothing quite so much as a thinking Communist True Believer in '68. You realise that the secular God you worshipped has failed, but you refuse to let it go. Economic Marxism back then, multi-racialism (otherwise known as Cultural Marxism) now. Not even the origins of the two messianic religions differ.

As to me aiming below the belt, somebody who chooses to describe his own city as a 'shithole' - safe in the anonymity provided to him by the internet - would know more about that than I. Am I right in suspecting that you are only 'jingoistic' when it comes to sending others' kids to die in a remote desert bunker?

Dave said...

If the ethnicities were the other way around it would cause a civil war.
Perhaps not officially a civil war, but such extreme riots there'd by little difference.


Welcome to the future.

Anonymous said...

Zeka,

Your previous comment was about the "genital dimensions in India", if that's not below the belt I don't know what is. How you manage to link that to sending "kids to remote bunkers" is beyond me.

I mentioned the BNP because they had claimed Asian men went round gang-raping young white girls sometime ago. And I definitely do not agree with the policies of the BNP, they are a joke of a party. Weren't there investigations into racist activities in the BNP?

I'm surprised how you managed to sum me up as a "Communist True Believer in '68" just from three sentences.

alex zeka said...

Jingo,

"Your previous comment was about the "genital dimensions in India", if that's not below the belt I don't know what is. How you manage to link that to sending "kids to remote bunkers" is beyond me."

If calling your native city a "shithole" from behind the cover of your internet anonymity isn't below the belt, then doing it while proclaiming your war-readiness to the world is most certainly the height of hypocricy. Cowardly cyber tough guy.

"I mentioned the BNP because they had claimed Asian men went round gang-raping young white girls sometime ago."

And do Asian men go round gang-raping white girls? If they, doesn't that make the BNP right - and moreover the only party with the guts and acumen to warn about this piece of malfeasance.

"And I definitely do not agree with the policies of the BNP, they are a joke of a party."

And yet you've just stated that the BNP have turned out to be right about the propensity of Asians to engage in paedophilia. Is having policies in accordance with reality a qualification for being a 'joke of a party' in your opinion?

"Weren't there investigations into racist activities in the BNP?"

Muslim community plans terror attacks. Asian community traffics white girls. BNP calls attention to this. Oh, why can't those thuggish skinheads just get along with everyone! We must waste police resources on investigating them!

"I'm surprised how you managed to sum me up as a "Communist True Believer in '68" just from three sentences."

You acknowledge that multiracialism leads to high crime, terror attacks, sex trafficking. Yet you still support it, and denounce any party that dares raise questions about it. As I said, you differ little from those Soviet commissars who insisted that the only opposition to Communism came from 'reactionary bourgeouisie enemies of the people', while the bodybags mounted.

Laban said...

Best of order please gentlemen ! This is my blog, not "Comment Is Free". Respect the host and don't diss each other.

(and that comment was imho uncalled for. I believe most of the population of India to be Hindu for starters, and so the comment's not relevant. And if dimensions are all important the Iranians wouldn't need to build a bomb ...)

stuart said...

"Does anyone think white men on the internet are targeting Asian girls ?"

If indeed it was that way around, the pold's response would be a 'task force' let by a Commander (at least) and given limitless resources and wall-to-wall publicity. As the girls are white and the predators from Bliar's Chosen Race, they can count themselves lucky to get that lone WPC

alex zeka said...

Laban, was my comment moreuncalled for than jingoistic's reference to his native city as a 'shithole'? (Look at his website).

There are two differences between the two comments: a. mine was not foul mouthed.
b. I owe the asian community zilch. Jingo owes Liverpool quite alot.

Squander Two said...

Alex Zeka,

Are you seriously suggesting that Laban should moderate not only these comments but also the blogs of all those who post them?


Now, just to clear up some confusion....

> "the issue of grooming also involved men, predominantly white,"

Conflicts with,

"The majority of cases involve Asian males..."


I believe that what the report was saying was that it is predominantly white men who are grooming via the Internet, while Asian men are approaching girls in the street. So, more crimes committed by Asian men, but more crimes committed using the Net by white men. And no contradiction.

BLueRibbon said...

"And yet you've just stated that the BNP have turned out to be right about the propensity of Asians to engage in paedophilia."

"Engaging in paedophilia?" Paedophilia does not mean "sex with children", it's a term used for people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. Using the term "engaging in paedophilia" is like using the term "engaging in heterosexuality."

In my opinion, the majority of BNP members are disgusting people and they will do anything to gain support.

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