Monday, January 29, 2007

Children, Muslims, Russians

The Policy Exchange report on the views of British Muslims (pdf) is available. At 100 pages, it's a lot more than a survey. I recognise some themes that Munira Mirza has touched on before.

On 'victimisation' :

In her article for the Guardian, the Respect Party’s councillor for Birmingham, Salma Yaqoob, argues that Muslims in the UK today are “subject to attacks reminiscent of the gathering storms of anti-Semitism in the first decades of the last century”. Such comparisons to Nazi Germany are common. As far back as 1992, during the period of the Bosnian civil war, the Muslim writer Shabbir Akhtar wrote in Muslim News, “next time there are gas chambers in Europe there is no doubt concerning who’ll be inside them”.105 Speaking at the launch of their publication, Anti-Muslim Discrimination and Hostility in the United Kingdom 2000, the Chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), Massoud Shadjareh, said “unless something is done urgently at governmental level, Muslims in Britain face the same fate this century as Jews in Europe in the last”.

These claims can only be described as hysterical.


A lot of thought's gone into it - I'll update when I've read it all. But a few things catch the eye.

Many of the problems in the world today are a result of arrogant western attitudes” is a statement agreed with by 58% of Muslims. But then 30% of the general population agree with that too. State education does teach something after all.

7% of Muslims and 13% of the 16-24 age group agreed that “I admire organisations like Al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight against the West”. A note references a 1971 survey of Germans, in which 5% (10% of the youngest age group) said they would shelter a Baader-Meinhof member for a night. Just goes to show.

Muslims are by far the most successful group in the United Kingdom, and probably in Europe, if population growth is the key criterion - as, at the last it must be.

The BBC would never touch the issue of Muslim fertility, but they do have a fair few pages on the European demographic crisis, cunningly disguised as 'the rise of the childfree' (note the authentic post-Christian view of children as a burden and expense, something one can be 'free' of). In Russia they're getting worried and bigging up babies - Germany too. The Russians also don't seem to value diversity as we do.

Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov has said he will never allow a gay rights parade in the Russian capital.

Speaking to reporters, Mr Luzhkov described such events as "satanic".

Moscow banned a gay march in 2006, citing the threat of violence. People who ignored the ban were beaten up by counter-demonstrators and arrested.

Gay activists say the ban breaches their fundamental human rights. They say they intend to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.


In Britain, 61% of Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, as it was until 1967. The younger the Muslim, the more likely s/he is to hold that view.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

In the UK muslims dead nil, non muslims dead 52. Who is threatening whom?

iancroydon said...

“next time there are gas chambers in Europe there is no doubt concerning who’ll be inside them”

Consider that the pan-Arab nationalism came from the same source as nazism, and that promanent nationalist Arabs were shilling for nazis in WW2, like the Mufti of Jerusalem, I can only offer this response.

“next time there are gas chambers in Europe there is no doubt concerning who’ll be building them”

Ryan said...

I think the gas chamber approach is unlikely here. More likely is that increasing Islamic militancy and terrorism will lead to the use of the successful approach adopted in NI. We will see armed police patrolling Islamic areas, all crimes committed by Muslims will be assumed to be terrorist in nature. We will have Diplock courts headed by pro-establishment judges. Gangs of white paramilitaries will roam the streets and will be fed information by the police on who to target. After 30 years of this Islamic militancy will cease to be a problem and the state will have kept its hands fairly clean. I don't see the Islamofacists being able to step back from this sort of confrontation over the next 10 years or so.

Anonymous said...

There might be - inshallah - reverse migration as young Muslims come to the realisation that this country is not going to change in the way it hopes, and hardens to the Islamist message by way of increased security, which is already mandated by the rest of the community. There are already a lot of 'two-centre' Muslims. PIA and Biman airlines are probably worth buying shares in...

Voyager said...

Salma Yaqoob is a Socialist Workers Party Councillor whose brother has Special Branch interest.

There are some groups who have nothing to offer but Paranoia and can only harvest a grouping by what they are against because noone is inspired by what they are FOR

The societal obsession with victimhood nurtured in the Post-Robbins Report 1960s University expansion is mirrored elsewhere in the world.

The overcapacity in Higher Education has been provided by classroom + postgraduate teacher instilling prejudice and calling it Humanities to a group of dysfunctional harridans and asocial inadequates.

As for the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem he was unfortunately appointed by the first Jewish Governor of Palestine since Roman times - 1st Viscount Samuel GCB, OM, GBE, PC.

With the demise of the Ottoman Empire the role of appoinmting The Grand Mufti fell to the British Governor who was Anglo-Jewish and by some perverse logic picked Hajj Amin AL Husseini a vociferous opponent of The Balfour Declaration and a campaigner for a Greater Syria to encompass Jerusalem

Voyager said...

Oh..Herbert Samuel was a Liberal

verity said...

Anonymous 6:52 - We don't count the dead as the only tragedies in the muslim perpetrated London Transport outrage. There were several hundred people maimed for life. Blinded. Arms or legs blown off.

Anonymous said...

"We will see armed police patrolling Islamic areas,.....Gangs of white paramilitaries will roam the streets and will be fed information by the police on who to target."

Dream on! HM Stormtroopers have already shown who's side they are on, and it ain't ours....recent events have shown them only too happy to break a few (white) heads for their Marxist paymasters in Whitehall and stamp out all dissent. Have you forgotten the Griffin show trials and Parliament square beatings?

Ryan said...

I don't have to dream-on. I've already seen the police kicking down doors in Woking to arrest Muslims. Not that you heard anything about it in the local press. I would guess that it is covered by the official secrets act. You can get away with murder under the official secrets act...

Just because the government doesn't want to be SEEN as anti-Islam doesn't necessarily mean our deranged leader and his pet Rottweiler John Reid aren't kicking the sh*t out of them as we speak. I only knew what was going on in Woking because I just happened to be right there at the time.

Of course that may be little comfort to those of us demanding robust action - we want to be able to KNOW that something is being done and the tide is turning.