Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Perhaps This'll Work

Immigrants should carry out community work before being granted UK citizenship, Gordon Brown will say. The chancellor is expected to tell a seminar on Britishness that the move would help new arrivals settle. Mr Brown's comments follow his earlier call for all incomers to learn English, and for the UK to have its own day to celebrate its national identity.

Of course he's always believed this. I well recall his many speeches on the subject in years past.

The chancellor will tell his audience in London that obliging migrants to carry out community work would help introduce them to the people they will be living alongside. It would also demonstrate to the host community that new immigrants will contribute to society as a whole.

Community work is what criminals are sentenced to do - I'm not sure what that says. It looks as though we're going to hear of lots of 'tough' tests and lots more 'Britishness', as he cozens and gammons the Native Brits. It's worked so far, so whu shouldn't it work again ? There's nothing he won't consider - except of course turning the flow of incomers off. After all, there's no upper limit to migration - and we don't have a population policy (the current default being that the natives are replaced).

Bwown's attitude to high levels of immigration is a bit like his attitude to high levels of taxation.

"I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back."

16 comments:

A Brummie said...

Bottom line - the country is full.

Until something is done about the illegals and failed asylum seekers here, there's no case for any more incomers. Even then a better case would be to get our own welfare burdens off their arses and working on community projects to get their benefits.

Voyager said...

Brown is off his head. They should speak and write English, have a grounding in British history and geography and pledge to be law-abiding.

Labour has shunted so many through the Citizenship door just to massage immigration figures and now find they cannot deport terrorists with passports.

It is like living in the USSR listening to Party Bosses telling you how good things are when you can;t even buy bread or meat. We have reached that point where normally bankrupt Socialist regimes impose a dictatorship to avoid being subjected to ridicule.

The mental health of people in this country must have deteriorated enormously since the 1970s....I am told by doctors that it certainly has and they are left with the mess - the litany of lies and deceit here is oppressive

Sam Tarran said...

I'm not quite sure if community work demonstrates they'll benefit society either. Once the work stops, who's to know what they'll get up to!

Dave said...

The question would have to be what kind of community work are they going to be doing?
Working for the local extremist? we can't discriminate!

verity said...

I totally agree with you, Voyager. And, of course, they've been handing out British citizenship - how dare they! It is not there's to give away! - in return for votes.

verity said...

Who noticed my deliberate spelling mistake? My previous post was a test.

Fulham Reactionary said...

One of my mother's colleagues recently took the current "tough" citizenship test. She found it almost insultingly easy. One question she highlighted was "Where is York?". That'll really sought the wheat from the chaff.

But of course, as it's in the government's political interest to bring in more immigrants - who are more likely to vote for left-wing parties - they're not going to want to make the citizenship tests so hard that any new voters might actually fail them.
But citizenship tests and compulsory community work sound good to the existing voters, and may even make them more friendly to the immigrants, without actually doing anything to reduce the number of immigrants. Spin without substance - from our own government, fancy that!

Anonymous said...

Migration from close family by which I mean Australia, NZ, Canada etc and perhaps the US. Then there is Europe.

Outside of that the default setting should be zero immigration. Some people might be allowed in but they would have to jump a few hurdles first. Health checks, IQ tests, educational acheivement. Oath of loyalty to the crown, and how about a binding contract not to break the law, immediate deportation upon completion of any jail time. Perhaps a bit of compulsory military service too.

Anybody think of anything else?

stuart said...

"We have reached that point where normally bankrupt Socialist regimes impose a dictatorship to avoid being subjected to ridicule."

As evidenced by the "exclusion zone" around Westminster, arrests for wearing "bollocks to Blair" T shirts and police beatings of countryside lobby protesters.

verity said...

Yes,Brown is off his head - as though we didn't know.

"Outside of that the default setting should be zero immigration."

"Some people might be allowed in but they would have to jump a few hurdles first. Health checks, IQ tests, educational acheivement. Oath of loyalty to the crown, and how about a binding contract not to break the law, immediate deportation upon completion of any jail time. Perhaps a bit of compulsory military service too."

And we need these people how, exactly? Given that we have Christian Eastern Europe on our doorstep pouring in? Skilled,intelligent and they share our values?

Why would we want outsiders from an alien - somewhat violent - belief system, who "took an oath of loyalty"? In islam, oaths mean zero. Google taqya and kitman.

alex zeka said...

"Why would we want outsiders from an alien - somewhat violent - belief system, who "took an oath of loyalty"? In islam, oaths mean zero. Google taqya and kitman. "

Cough, goys, cough, Kaganovich, cough, Trotsky, cough, Marx, cough.

Um, can you perhaps think of some other religio-ethnic group of ME origins, whose holy texts abjure them to lie to, steal from, etc, etc all outsiders, whenever they can get away with it? Any takers?

Fulham Reactionary said...

Alex Zeka:

British Jews do not commonly carry out terrorist attacks. Muslims do.

We have not had problems with hundreds of Jews marching through the streets of London calling for various people to be killed.

The vast majority of Jewish people have integrated fully into British society. The few that have not, such as the ultra-Orthodox types in North London, do not seek to impose their way of life on the rest of us. Muslims, by contrast, not only fail to integrate, but are so culturally alien that they cannot integrate. Nonetheless, they do seek to force us to integrate into their backward and barbaric way of life.

There is a huge threat to this country from Islam. There is no threat from Judaism. Making insinuations about Jews is not only misleading, but also undermines any efforts being made to fight back against Islam.

alex zeka said...

"British Jews do not commonly carry out terrorist attacks. Muslims do."

Which ethnicity more than any other shilled for the border anarchy that has given Islamists access to our hearth and home?

giant squid said...

Alex once again reveals himself to be a twat who should be deported for gross stupidity.

By the way, to follow his, cough, argument, cough cough, how many communist revolutonaries have been ethnic Russians, like Mr. Zeka himself? A fair lot I would say, cough cough.

Now excuse me while I go rip off some goys (like most Jews, I always carry a book of obscure medieval dictums in my back pocket).

alex zeka said...

It's about proportions, not raw numbers. If a community has 95 whites and 5, say, greens in it, and a conspiracy arises which consists of 5 greens and 6 whites we'd at least entertain the possibility that it's somehow connected to the greens' greenness, no? If several such communities exist, and we see greens scheming to bring each of these communities down, we'd be bloody concerned, wouldn't we?

Besides, even looking at raw numbers we find that 75% of the revolutionary cheka and politburo were of a certain ethnicity, which subscribes to a certain "alien - somewhat violent - belief system".

Now, the next question, we are allowed to acknowledge the role of Russians and Germans in genocidal activity, but the minute we come to Jews it's "Holocaust relativisation". If there's nothing to hide, how come you're so eager to hide it, giant squid?

alex zeka said...

"Now excuse me while I go rip off some goys"

How come you never told us you're the Israeli ambassador to the US? ;>