Monday, April 30, 2007

"Vibrant and Alive"

Let's say you're a liberal researcher looking at a phenomenon well-known in UK. As more and more incomers arrive in the city, more and more of the natives move out. How do you to put a positive spin on this, lads ? We've done 'diversity' and the improved choice of restaurants to death. Any ideas ?

Tell you what. You don't want to imply that the people coming in are driving the people going out. Why not start with the phenomenon of the natives leaving, and present it in isolation, with no context - as something that's "just happened".

Then we can present the incomers as arriving just in time to save the poor city from becoming empty - as saviours propping up the ailing cities !

Brilliant !

Immigration is helping to keep America's big cities vibrant and alive, buffering major metropolitan areas from a slow drain in population as longtime residents move out, new data released yesterday by the US Census Bureau shows ...

By the middle of this century those patterns of movement - native-born Americans moving out, newcomers and their families moving in - will put a very different face on the average city. The majority population will be members of ethnic minority groups. In some of the fastest growing cities, such as the Dallas Fort Worth area, immigrants accounted for nearly 80% of population growth over the last six years.

19 comments:

verity said...

That obfuscation and those lies are worthy of Tony Blair and his slithering den of vipers.

There is nothing the left will not resort to to create the brave new dawn of one-worlderism.

verity said...

"In some of the fastest growing cities, such as the Dallas Fort Worth area, immigrants accounted for nearly 80% of population growth over the last six years."

British people should beward of relating America's patterns too closely to their own as the two countries are not similar, despite the common language.

Having lived in Texas, my guess is that most of the immigrants will be Mexicans. I'm not saying mass immigration is a good thing. My views on this are known. But Mexicans are the idigenes of the area.

Spain, admittedly not Mexicans, claimed Texas in 1519, when it was busy conquering Latin America. So the Spanish language has been in Texas longer than English.

Texas was actually under Mexican rule from 1821 to 1836, when it became a republic in its own right.

So Latin Americans are not seriously alien the way Pakistanis and other muslims are very seriously alien and destructive.

No, they shouldn't be in Texas or the US illegally, but they are not alien in the sense that people from a very barbaric culture with a primitive, violent belief system are alien.

But I take all your other points.

Voyager said...

In some of the fastest growing cities, such as the Dallas Fort Worth area,

Metroplex is not a city...it is a sprawling mass unlike anything in Europe. Richardson and Plano are so very different from Oak Lawn or Mesquite - and Preston Hollow has much more affluence than anyone south of Main Street can hope to achieve.

Money lies north of Mockingbird and even north of LBJ.

D/FW is a huge area - the airport alone is the size of Manhattan - so comparing it with any European city is bizarre.

Metroplex has 6 million people on 23,955 km² - Greater London has 1,577 km² with 7.6 million people

So Dallas-Fort Worth has 15 times the florr space of Greater London

Anonymous said...

A lesson from Texas. The Mexicans invited Americans to settle there, until one day the Americans were a majority, then they declared themselves independant. 'Course nothing like that ever happens nowadays...

Anonymous said...

I note the word 'vibrant' was used without irony. Dont they realise thats a code word for 'place you get robbed/raped/killed'?

FlyingRodent said...

It's called "white flight", and it's been acknowledged by sociologists for the past fifty years at least.

But I'm sure you know that.

Voyager said...

A lesson from Texas. The Mexicans invited Americans to settle there, until one day the Americans were a majority, then they declared themselves independent.


Settlers at Jamestown were helped by Indians their first winter....within a couple of centuries Indians were on reservations

Bert Rustle said...

FlyingRodent wrote: “It's called "white flight" ...”

Kruse, K. M. (2005). White Flight: Atlanta and the Making of Modern Conservatism. ISBN 0691092605

From amazon.com reviews:

Thomas J. Sugrue, Kahn Professor of History and Sociology, ... a myth-shattering book. Focusing on the city that prided itself as 'too busy to hate,' Kevin Kruse reveals the everyday ways that middle-class whites in Atlanta resisted civil rights, withdrew from the public sphere, and in the process fashioned a new, grassroots, suburban-based conservatism. This important book has national implications for our thinking about the links between race, suburbanization, and the rise of the New Right.

Foxy Brown said...

Let's play a game of word association:

multi-ethnic - "vibrant"

"vibrant" - white flight

Bruce said...

Dallas has lots of Indians (from India!), 3 Gurdwaras and at least 3 Hindu temples.

http://www.dallasindia.us/associations.html

James G. said...

bert rustle,
Funny you should mention Atlanta there. My suburban high school went from being 80% white (when I first arrived) to 90% black in seven years (when my brother finally decided to drop out of high school because he got tired of getting his ass kicked weekly by some of the vibrant non-racist newcomers from Northern inner cities.)

Yaffle said...

Laban,

To add to your list of right-ons who've decamped to the hideously white shires, were you aware of the case of Rosie Boycott, now living on a Somerset smallholding?

Voyager said...

The future of england

Town

Little Stempington

AntiCitizenOne said...

Vibrant growth in security related employment!

verity said...

Actually, Voyager, I rather like the DFW metroplex. I even like DWF.

Anyway, Laban's comment was chilling because we have the beginning of another Big Lie. For some reason, people whose families have lived in an area for perhaps around a hundred years suddenly decide to strike out, leaving neighbours, friends and family, for somewhere where they are strangers to start a new life.

Others, inexplicably, follow. There's just no keeping up with those crazy white folks!

Fortunately, there are boatloads of foreigners keen to come in and rejuvenate the area and make it vibrant once more with honour killings, multi-"wife" households, women dressed in bin liners, men in daft Arabian Nights outfits unsuitable for the British climate, cruel, halal butchers' shops and the merry din of Urdu everywhere!

Bert Rustle said...

James G. wrote “ Funny you should mention Atlanta there. My suburban high school went from being 80% white (when I first arrived) to 90% black in seven years ...” Another Amazon reviewer, Michael E. Johnson (Atlanta , Georgia United States) wrote “This book is first, well written and then well researched. As someone who grew up in Atlanta during a good part of the time period covered by the book I'm impressed by the amount of detail and the level of accuracy that the writer provides. ... Please, please, please buy this book and read it.” So you corroborate him, to a degree.

verity wrote “... we have the beginning of another Big Lie. For some reason, people whose families have lived in an area for perhaps around a hundred years suddenly decide to strike out, leaving neighbours, friends and family, for somewhere where they are strangers to start a new life.”

There is an Evolutionary Biologist’s explanation of this, but as the free speech guardians at the SPLC have deemed the author hateful, which is good enough for some, I have not linked the article. Personally, I will start to read anything (except tea leaves or entrails) and make my own mind up; normally a page or two is enough to judge the quality of a work.

James G. said...

bert rustle,
I just went to read the synopsis of the White Flight book. It looks interesting and accurate

When we first moved there in 1981, most of my friends' parents were dixiecrats, conservative democrats. Now that we're all growed up, the majority are Republican.

My father came from a small Rust Belt town in Michigan originally and when he got out of the Navy he went to where the work was. I suspect a lot of the concept of "getting on your bike" makes people from traditionally liberal backgrounds more conservative. One of his brothers, who never moved and is still working in the factory he went to work in when he graduated high school is fond of the Democrat kool-aid.

(My mother, from Northern Ireland originally, watches nothing but Fox and tells all the Yanks where to get off when they start spouting liberal BS. It's great to hear of her debates with my uncles!

Once when she went to a ceremony in Derry City Hall on one of her visits home, she was introduced to a Liberal Democrat and she said "are you actually proud to be called that?")

verity said...

Bert Russell - Our two countries cannot be compared on this issue. Our people have been in our country since the landmass first emerged from the sea. Our roots are very deep. We do not just up sticks and move to another area unless there is a compelling reason.

(Although this has changed in the last 10 years, since the socialists took the wrecking ball to our country. Over three million of us, including me, have left.) Incidentally, I suspect the 3m figure is deliberately underestimated.

Bert Rustle said...

James G. wrote “I just went to read the synopsis of the White Flight book. It looks interesting and accurate” I have not actually read the book. It was referenced several times in an academic paper I was flipping through and I thought it might be relevant to the discussion.

James G. wrote “... she was introduced to a Liberal Democrat and she said "are you actually proud to be called that?"” I have seen them described as Lib-Dims, Lib-Dumbs etc.

verity wrote “... Our two countries cannot be compared on this issue. ... We do not just up sticks and move to another area unless there is a compelling reason.” It appears to have been compelling in London.
Migrationwatchuk.com have a report, 9_10_Internal_migration.pdf . To quote:

Conclusion
16. The pace of inter-Regional migration, which is principally from London to the South-
West, South-East, East and East Midlands Regions, is accelerating in line with the
acceleration in the pace of international migration. Most international migrants head to
London.
17. In the London boroughs there is a correlation between the rate at which the existing
population is leaving the borough and the size of the ethnic minority population. In contrast
the areas of the country which are receiving internal migrants are predominantly white. The
effect is a rapid increase in the ethic minority composition of some boroughs, resulting from
an outflow of the white population, an inflow of African and Asian international migrants and
the demographic factors of age distribution and fertility rates of some ethnic minority groups.
There seems to be a similar pattern in the Manchester and Birmingham areas. Overall the
result is that the white population of the UK and the ethnic minority population are becoming
increasingly separated.
18. The rate at which this change is taking place greatly exacerbates the difficulties of
integrating immigrants into the culture of the United Kingdom. It also places enormous stress
on housing, education, health and social services in immigrant areas. Meanwhile, the South-
West, East, South-East and East Midlands regions are having to expand rapidly to cater for
the outflow of the existing population from London – putting strains on their infrastructure,
particularly housing, transport, education and health.
19. This study thus reinforces the concerns expressed by the Cohesion Panel which reported
to the government in July 2004 that “the pace of change (for a variety of reasons) is simply
too great in some areas at present.” It is obvious from this study that the pace, scale and
geographical concentration of immigration is a major factor.
February ,9, 2005

verity wrote “Over three million of us, including me, have left. ... I suspect the 3m figure is deliberately underestimated.” It excludes all of their offspring, at least.