Sunday, September 23, 2007

Is That All ?


More than one crime in five in London is now committed by a foreign national, raising fresh fears over the impact of immigration. Around a third of all sex offences and a half of all frauds in the capital are carried out by non-British citizens.

I must admit those figures seem too low to me. Are they saying the foreign population of London is less than 20% ?

Romania seems to be the one to watch - straight in at number 5 with a 700% increase.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

More than one crime in five in London is now committed by a foreign national,...

If you gave them all British passports then you could solve this problem of foreigners committing crime, right?

It would be interesting, for each nationality, to see this data correlated with the total number of each nation's citizens living in the UK -- so you could, for example, say something like 'A Jamaican is Nx more likely to commit a crime than a Frenchman', for some number N (if the relationship indeed turns out to be so, which it probably would, meaning N would be greater than 1 here).

It would be even more interesting to know the proportion of crime committed by non-whites, since they are hardest on the eyes, i.e. in the sense that they are the most unrepresentative of the UK's demographic heritage.

eh

Anonymous said...

About 5000 violent and sex crimes committed every year by foreign nationals in London alone. I feel sick. How the hell do you justify current immigration policy to the victims of those crimes?

Anonymous said...

You don't, you ignore them because they aren't important. The only people you have to keep onside are the media and the NGO pressure groups.

Meanwhile, the BNP vote grows by the day, but never mind, the golden eagles will use their money to flee the country before it gets too bad.

DJ said...

I'm guessing this study can only measure crime where the felon is known, so it will be biased towards crimes which are only recorded on detection, i.e. drink driving, tax evasion and the like, rather than, say, rapes, where the offender may never be found.

Anonymous said...

London has around 200 murders a year and of those about 80-85% are committed by foreigners or UK born Ethnic Minorities.

If you have satellite use teletext to get news of the latest killings or ongoing murder trials from London.

You will see who kills who.

Elbow said...

Then...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7078605509659439395&q=mitchell+and+kenyon&total=8&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

And Now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVOFyXe-RR0

Wazpy said...

Anonymous 8:23,

I don't have the 2007 demographic data for London but I can do what you're asking using 2001 data.

We can use Irish immigrants as a benchmark.

They make up 8% of the London foreign born population and they committed 1,390 total crimes, 347
violent crimes, 2 sex offenses and 79 theft crimes.
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Somalis are around 2% of the London foreign born population and they committed 1105 total crimes, 305 violent crimes, 12 sex offenses and 154 theft crimes.

The Somali per capita rate of total crimes is 3.17 times as high as the Irish.
Violent crime rate is 3.51 times as high.
Sex offenses are 24 times as high as the Irish.
Theft crimes per capita are 7.8 times as high as the Irish.

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Jamaicans are 4% of the London foreign born population and they committed 1750 total crimes, 425 violent crimes, 28 sex offenses and 283 theft crimes.

The Jamaican per capita rate of total crimes is 2.52 times as high as the Irish.
violent crime is 2.44 times as high.
Sex offenses are 28 times as high. Theft crimes are 7.2 times as high as the Irish.

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Nigerians are 4% of the London foreign born population and they committed 878 total crimes, 210 violent crimes, 23 sex offenses and 165 theft crimes.

The Nigerian per capita rate of total crimes is 1.26 times as high as the Irish.
Violent crime rate is 1.21 times as high.
Sex offenses are 23 times as high. Theft crimes per capita are 4.18 times as high as the Irish.

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Bangladeshis are 4% of the London foreign born population and they committed 438 total crimes, 157 violent crimes, 18 sex offenses and 55 theft crimes.

The Bangladeshi per capita rate of total crimes is 0.63 times as high as the Irish.
Violent crime rate is 0.9 times as high.
Sex offenses are 18 times as high as the Irish.
Theft crimes per capita are 1.39 times as high as the Irish.
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The French are 2% of the London foreign born population and they committed 567 total crimes, 114 violent crimes, 8 sex offenses and 128 theft crimes.

The French per capita rate of total crimes is 1.63 times as high as the Irish.
Violent crime rate is 1.31 times as high as the Irish.
Sex offenses are 16 times as high. Theft crimes per capita are 6.48 times as high as the Irish.

London 2001

The worst offenders seem to be the Somalis, followed by the Jamaicans. The French are also high but I wonder if they are 'French' or if they are Algerians, Moroccans, etc...

Anonymous said...

I too suspect the 'French' are anything but.

Ditto for Portugal. And those Romanians, I presume thats mostly gypsies.

Anonymous said...

Where are the Albanians?

Anonymous said...

I too suspect the 'French' are anything but.

Most probably. Just like the BBC telling us about the "French youth" who burn cars etc.

Thanks for the interesting data; nice to see it confirmed that the UK is busily importing a disproportionately criminal underclass. Not that you can actually say anything like that.

eh

Anonymous said...

We need per-capita figures to measure the proportion of crimes committed in relation to the population of the ethnic group.

It suddenly seems convenient to publish crime figures when they can be fiddled so as WHITE minority can be made to appear on the top.

Poland only pushed Jamaica off the top because the overall population of Poles rose by 35% over the year, bringing their representation to about 10% - greater than that of the Irish.

It is also easier to report and trace crimes committed by EU citizens than by non-EU citizens and illegals of no fixed abode.

Also, the police might be trying to play down or even fail to report inter-ethnic incidents ("black-on-black violence").

I also suspect that the Jamaican crime rate had fallen due to the decriminalisation of cannabis.

Also, "French" and "Italian" could well mean Moroccan, Algerian, Libyan, Eritrean or Somali.

Look at all the 'pizza' joints run by North Africans !

Anonymous said...

Further to Poland being so high on the list...

I live in Lancs. and have come across a deli in Bolton run by "Poles" who have darker skin than most ethnic Poles - possibly Roma "gypsies".

I suspect that many of the "Polish" criminal incidents were carried out by "Polish gypsy" gangsters, and not by "true" Poles, who generally have a good work ethic despite their propensity to drink.